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		<title>By: Marge</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a computer programmer and most all facets of my life are conducted via computer\intrant. Rather than impose on my company network for my personal banking, reading at lunch, emails, I bring my own laptop with its own data connect into work. People do experience a double-take when they see it... but after thinking about it, how is different than bring a cell phone to work? Also, most of my valuable code and tools are on it already. I think this is the wave of the future and the stuffed shirts need to realize it. SOon all personal business will be conducted over the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a computer programmer and most all facets of my life are conducted via computer\intrant. Rather than impose on my company network for my personal banking, reading at lunch, emails, I bring my own laptop with its own data connect into work. People do experience a double-take when they see it&#8230; but after thinking about it, how is different than bring a cell phone to work? Also, most of my valuable code and tools are on it already. I think this is the wave of the future and the stuffed shirts need to realize it. SOon all personal business will be conducted over the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kasdorf</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kasdorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, me again, i really like the idea Andrew had, it is a win-win-situation and on the comment from Matt to Scott I would like to say: &quot;Yes, it is correct there is allways someone who, let&#039;s say plays around but even with a global policy you will not get rid of such people, so why punish everyone?&quot; but i don&#039;t have a solution to that either. It is more like the people here in Germany paying tax and the social system and some other people just take it and laugh about it but they are not worth thinking about in my opinion. So why not handle it the same way?

But for Scott&#039;s first point. People bringing there own hardware to work is not about the brand I think, it is rather like driving a low budget Opel then a Porsche. (-:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, me again, i really like the idea Andrew had, it is a win-win-situation and on the comment from Matt to Scott I would like to say: &#8220;Yes, it is correct there is allways someone who, let&#8217;s say plays around but even with a global policy you will not get rid of such people, so why punish everyone?&#8221; but i don&#8217;t have a solution to that either. It is more like the people here in Germany paying tax and the social system and some other people just take it and laugh about it but they are not worth thinking about in my opinion. So why not handle it the same way?</p>
<p>But for Scott&#8217;s first point. People bringing there own hardware to work is not about the brand I think, it is rather like driving a low budget Opel then a Porsche. (-:</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Matt,

Actually, speaking about the development sandbox and VirtualBox / VMWare, that is exactly what we&#039;re doing here at atHome Group in Luxembourg. If you&#039;d like to share some experience, feel free to get in touch with StephanKasdorfreagroupcom :-) He&#039;s the man handling this stuff over here and has done a great job so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Matt,</p>
<p>Actually, speaking about the development sandbox and VirtualBox / VMWare, that is exactly what we&#8217;re doing here at atHome Group in Luxembourg. If you&#8217;d like to share some experience, feel free to get in touch with StephanKasdorfreagroupcom <img src='http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  He&#8217;s the man handling this stuff over here and has done a great job so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gay</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it doesn&#039;t seem like much, the little inches of freedom, like this, which can be offered to the tech-savy and creative team members can often be the difference between an &quot;employee&quot; and a passionate, enthusiastic resource.  Creative people can be difficult resources to keep happy and sometimes little concessions like a BYOC policy can benefit morale and engagement. We geeks like our geeky toys, we like our technical freedom and we like to feel privileged :)

On the other hand, Scott Stacey makes a very valid point above about administering incidents of BYOC-ers breaking an appropriate use policy. For all the trust that you may have in a team, there&#039;ll always been one member that breaks the rules. I&#039;d be interested to hear how other implementors of a BYOC policy handle such situations; a formal warning, just as if the transgression occurred on company equipment, or a zero tolerance policy of removing an employee&#039;s BYOC privilege on the first incident?

Technical tangent: virtual machine images are not only good for standardising and deploying workstations, but can be excellent solutions for managing/deploying sandbox environments and (most importantly) for providing a comprehensive cross-platform testing setup without requiring many separate physical machines (e.g. the free VirtualPC images for testing IE6/7/8). Bundling an effective VM workstation &amp; dev sandbox, a virtualised test setup and a BYOC policy could make for a nifty development ecosystem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it doesn&#8217;t seem like much, the little inches of freedom, like this, which can be offered to the tech-savy and creative team members can often be the difference between an &#8220;employee&#8221; and a passionate, enthusiastic resource.  Creative people can be difficult resources to keep happy and sometimes little concessions like a BYOC policy can benefit morale and engagement. We geeks like our geeky toys, we like our technical freedom and we like to feel privileged <img src='http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the other hand, Scott Stacey makes a very valid point above about administering incidents of BYOC-ers breaking an appropriate use policy. For all the trust that you may have in a team, there&#8217;ll always been one member that breaks the rules. I&#8217;d be interested to hear how other implementors of a BYOC policy handle such situations; a formal warning, just as if the transgression occurred on company equipment, or a zero tolerance policy of removing an employee&#8217;s BYOC privilege on the first incident?</p>
<p>Technical tangent: virtual machine images are not only good for standardising and deploying workstations, but can be excellent solutions for managing/deploying sandbox environments and (most importantly) for providing a comprehensive cross-platform testing setup without requiring many separate physical machines (e.g. the free VirtualPC images for testing IE6/7/8). Bundling an effective VM workstation &amp; dev sandbox, a virtualised test setup and a BYOC policy could make for a nifty development ecosystem.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sims</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could potentially work this in with a lease plan so the employee pays the unit off over a period of time and when the lease period is up, there is a choice of upgrading or purchasing outright (this might also get around the issue of system upgrades before the end of life for the equipment is up). Some sort of deal with salary sacrifice could also be possible (Not sure on the finance implications with that one).

Its benefits like these that make employees far stickier to their organization. Throw in the support aspect and you’ve got a real winner (while potentially bridging the gap between IT and the business).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could potentially work this in with a lease plan so the employee pays the unit off over a period of time and when the lease period is up, there is a choice of upgrading or purchasing outright (this might also get around the issue of system upgrades before the end of life for the equipment is up). Some sort of deal with salary sacrifice could also be possible (Not sure on the finance implications with that one).</p>
<p>Its benefits like these that make employees far stickier to their organization. Throw in the support aspect and you’ve got a real winner (while potentially bridging the gap between IT and the business).</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Craig, and thanks for the comment. I agree that good tools is something employees must have, regardless of the business they work in. Especially in technology companies which have a certain culture towards hi-tech stuff, this applies fully. You&#039;re also right that it might be seen as a symptom, but not necessarily. Most of my people have top notch computers and still bring their hardware to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig, and thanks for the comment. I agree that good tools is something employees must have, regardless of the business they work in. Especially in technology companies which have a certain culture towards hi-tech stuff, this applies fully. You&#8217;re also right that it might be seen as a symptom, but not necessarily. Most of my people have top notch computers and still bring their hardware to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People bringing their own computers to work is normally a symptom. If you are giving your developers who are on $80k+ a year a computer that is 4 years old and broken enough that you literally couldn&#039;t give it away to charity, then you will start to find them bringing their own PC. Investing $1-2k per year on hardware is not much for the increased productivity you will gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People bringing their own computers to work is normally a symptom. If you are giving your developers who are on $80k+ a year a computer that is 4 years old and broken enough that you literally couldn&#8217;t give it away to charity, then you will start to find them bringing their own PC. Investing $1-2k per year on hardware is not much for the increased productivity you will gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Your Own Computer to Work &#124; My CEO Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bring Your Own Computer to Work &#124; My CEO Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points, that truly need to be grappled with - but I don&#039;t have answers, just ideas...

First of all, I believe that in a company that  chooses to supply equipment; then anyone working for such a company should have tools that allow a person to be successful at their role - hardware and software should NEVER be inadequate and require supplement by the individual. 

So I will take it as a given that people will have adequate equipment. Now they may not like the style/brand/colour/weight of their equipment (e.g. not every company car can be Toyota no matter how much you hate your Opel/Holden/Ford/Nissan etc.) Basically, if you don&#039;t like the equipment, but it is not limiting your productivity - then bad luck, sorry, there are many things I would rather have in my life as well.

Secondly, I believe that in a company that chooses to have and enforce an &#039;appropriate usage policy&#039;; then anyone working for such a company must understand that there are real, substantive, painful consequences to deviating from those acceptable use &#039;guidelines&#039;. In the case of company cars, its pretty clear to see that attempting a track record at Nurbergring with a company Toyota/Holden/Opel/Ford/ etc.would not be acceptable...

Unfortunately, in the normal (mundane) course of using our personal equipment (computers) we most likely transgress on those policies - even if that is because the policy is badly written, wholly out of date, viewed as paleolithic in origin, etc. This is assuming that individuals never look at, peruse, any of the incredibly popular, lucrative, enticing, and successful websites/software/applications that tread on the accepted mores and ethics of the global community. Even more unfortunately, enforcement of the policy if and when evidence of transgression is seen/found/traced etc. on personal equipment is a bucket of pain that I would not want to have to administer. 

Soon I will hear howls of &#039;antiquated policy interfering with sexy company&#039;.  Basically, if you don&#039;t like the policy, but it is not limiting your productivity - then bad luck, sorry, there are many things I would rather have different in my life as well - build a bridge and get over it; otherwise, fix the policy!

So its not security, its not individual trust - its the letter of the law as enacted by enforceable corporate policy and employment contracts that really gets in the way of bringing personal computers to the workplace.

Old Willie&#039; certainly had his quote about lawyers right....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points, that truly need to be grappled with &#8211; but I don&#8217;t have answers, just ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>First of all, I believe that in a company that  chooses to supply equipment; then anyone working for such a company should have tools that allow a person to be successful at their role &#8211; hardware and software should NEVER be inadequate and require supplement by the individual. </p>
<p>So I will take it as a given that people will have adequate equipment. Now they may not like the style/brand/colour/weight of their equipment (e.g. not every company car can be Toyota no matter how much you hate your Opel/Holden/Ford/Nissan etc.) Basically, if you don&#8217;t like the equipment, but it is not limiting your productivity &#8211; then bad luck, sorry, there are many things I would rather have in my life as well.</p>
<p>Secondly, I believe that in a company that chooses to have and enforce an &#8216;appropriate usage policy&#8217;; then anyone working for such a company must understand that there are real, substantive, painful consequences to deviating from those acceptable use &#8216;guidelines&#8217;. In the case of company cars, its pretty clear to see that attempting a track record at Nurbergring with a company Toyota/Holden/Opel/Ford/ etc.would not be acceptable&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in the normal (mundane) course of using our personal equipment (computers) we most likely transgress on those policies &#8211; even if that is because the policy is badly written, wholly out of date, viewed as paleolithic in origin, etc. This is assuming that individuals never look at, peruse, any of the incredibly popular, lucrative, enticing, and successful websites/software/applications that tread on the accepted mores and ethics of the global community. Even more unfortunately, enforcement of the policy if and when evidence of transgression is seen/found/traced etc. on personal equipment is a bucket of pain that I would not want to have to administer. </p>
<p>Soon I will hear howls of &#8216;antiquated policy interfering with sexy company&#8217;.  Basically, if you don&#8217;t like the policy, but it is not limiting your productivity &#8211; then bad luck, sorry, there are many things I would rather have different in my life as well &#8211; build a bridge and get over it; otherwise, fix the policy!</p>
<p>So its not security, its not individual trust &#8211; its the letter of the law as enacted by enforceable corporate policy and employment contracts that really gets in the way of bringing personal computers to the workplace.</p>
<p>Old Willie&#8217; certainly had his quote about lawyers right&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kasdorf</title>
		<link>http://www.alainfontaine.lu/blog/2009/01/byoc-bring-your-own-computer-to-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kasdorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well basically the own equipment which is used on work is only for one reason, to improve the workflow itself, i agree also to that one point. The own laptop ( for example ) should not be used for playing around during the working time in the company, even so it holds personal data and maybe also games. So i made up some rules to work with own equipment on the company and it works fine for me.

1.) do not install or configure the stuff during worktime

2.) be responible for the security, installing a virus scan or check the envirnoment from time to time, but that already should be given, because in my case i am also using online banking and other work for customers which is confidential.

3.) use the system for hardware intesive programms, for example having server systems running on it also speeds up the desktop environment and supports your workflow on that system. Another advantage is that you can run your email client on that system also and have the company equipment on focus on the development in my case, cold also be booking software or excel etc.

But who takes care about all of that? I did not find an answer to that question, but i think the persons that think about bringing the own hardware to work usually are that responsible to manage it themselfs, of course there are some times black sheeps but they are everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well basically the own equipment which is used on work is only for one reason, to improve the workflow itself, i agree also to that one point. The own laptop ( for example ) should not be used for playing around during the working time in the company, even so it holds personal data and maybe also games. So i made up some rules to work with own equipment on the company and it works fine for me.</p>
<p>1.) do not install or configure the stuff during worktime</p>
<p>2.) be responible for the security, installing a virus scan or check the envirnoment from time to time, but that already should be given, because in my case i am also using online banking and other work for customers which is confidential.</p>
<p>3.) use the system for hardware intesive programms, for example having server systems running on it also speeds up the desktop environment and supports your workflow on that system. Another advantage is that you can run your email client on that system also and have the company equipment on focus on the development in my case, cold also be booking software or excel etc.</p>
<p>But who takes care about all of that? I did not find an answer to that question, but i think the persons that think about bringing the own hardware to work usually are that responsible to manage it themselfs, of course there are some times black sheeps but they are everywhere.</p>
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